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Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

neil strauss — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:07:18 -0000

Google done another PR toolbar update on 12th January 2008. I think the hype has died down on pr updates as less blogs are posting about it.
PR as seen from the toolbar is outdated since PR is actually updated everyday. As webmasters we really should not bothered much about the toolbar PR as it does not determine traffic. What we want is keyword rankings, and an increasing PR is a result of a keyword ranking campaign.
The only usage for toolbar PR is to sell text links, other advertisements, and gaining link partners. Though when caught selling links the PR would go down anyway!

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

D Web Design — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:43:42 -0000

Has Google tagged the text links advertising websites as bad neighbours?

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Richard — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:40:11 -0000

My main site has been a PR 3 for years now, I hoped Google would bumb me up at least to a 4

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

La psicologia — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:37:18 -0000

I'm happy with this update since my site stepped from pagerank 3 to pagerank 4!

A strange update anyway... we've waited for 6 months and now a lot of sites have lost 1-2 or eve 3 pr points!

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Hair Loss Treatment — Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:58:02 -0000

I agree with you if you are ranking well for your keywords then it really does not matter.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Everton — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:35:45 -0000

hoho, you site still pr6, thatâ€™s ok.

shush, big brother Google is watching

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

horisly — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:32:47 -0000

hoho, you site still pr6, that's ok.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Richard — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:28:31 -0000

@ Hair Loss

Yes, its nice to be a PR 7-8, however if you are a PR2 and your #1 for your keywords who really cares.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Sasha T. — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:18:02 -0000

I think it is stupid if they punish you for linking to some unrelated sites, I mean I want to link to everybody, why do I have to be punished?

p.s. I'm not affected with this update yet :)

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Micah — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:28:05 -0000

I'm not understanding what you mean Matthew...Problogger has a PR0? I checked earlier and it was 4. Besides that, you can check his stats right at the bottom of his webpage, and they are the same as before. So apprently it didn't do anything to harm his serps.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Serg V — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 01:08:35 -0000

I think if sites stay in SERP is not penalize. PR is nothing, if site receive big traffic, and people like content of this site, page rank may be 0 but popularity and weight of this site will big.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Karthik — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:12:10 -0000

@Kline

That's still important news - there are a couple of webmasters putting links inside JS to avoid Google penalizing them, but yet being able to send traffic. But if that is the case, I guess I'm being paranoid here - what about the links on widgets like Adsense and Chitika and the like?

Also, have you tried it to see if it works even if its on a separate file like you hint?

They did start on a similar foot when they tried indexing URLs with parameters beyond the "?". Now they can do it quite well - so I'm guessing if they've figured as much, its just a matter of time.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Kline — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:51:30 -0000

@karthik

Yea, it certainly isn't intelligent by any means... but I can guarentee the urls they are hitting are linked from nowhere on the site except for in the JS (the js is on page, not in a .js file). It is *quite* stupid in how it hits it..

the code is like

var url = '/ratings/rate.php?rating=' + rating;
... send AJAX request code...

and its just hitting /ratings/rate.php with out any parameters... and i am sure it is google doing it.. dunno if they are just looking for anything looking like a url and just being silly, or its starting attempts at looking at JS parsing.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Martin — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:48:54 -0000

What I really can't understand is that Google is not releasing a statement about the current situation. There is no transparency whatsoever.

It surely looks to be like random picks but I could be wrong. I think that someone probably reported lots of those sites in the Webmaster Tools area to hurt the competition.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Hair Loss Treatment — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:09:19 -0000

Richard I think that long green line makes a big difference to every site. Finally the whole game is all about BACKLINKS and PAGE RANK.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Marcus The Lover — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:42:14 -0000

Interlinking won't be detected if you host on different providers. Use varied services like rackspace, doteasy, godaddy, internic.

And you fly under the radar

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Everton — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:02:28 -0000

Google must love it that we spend all day talking about what we think they do, so they can do the exact opposite!

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Harishankar — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:42:34 -0000

ok, now another prediction... Bunch of sites that interlink among themselves where everyone sell links, google has a new algo to find these sites and measure these 2 factors and penalize them or make their interlinking invalid....

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Harishankar — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:30:17 -0000

But this time, even blogs that are particularly pointing on specific keyword are also hit... might be google is not happy with people who sell links to be simple...

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Harishankar — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:14:52 -0000

With a little research I did on few sites I usually read, I came to a conclusion like this: Sites that have wide spread content with no common point of target, and having bunch of irrelevant links on their pages, are moved down in PR. To make it simple blogs which are specific to a particular topic, say about mobile games or say its about mobile phones are not suffering but sites like this blog which have each page targeting different keywords suffer.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Joseph Plazo — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:42:12 -0000

Those blogs dropping to PR4's not so bad. I fell to PR4 on the first quarter PR update this year, but my search engine ranking positions for the critical keywords I target increased!

There seems to be little correlation between PR and SERPs these days.

Maybe they should roll out trustrank in force and ditch PR?

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Marcus the Lover — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:26:30 -0000

I can confirm this. More than half in my blogging community dropped from PR 4 or 5 to PR 2 to 3. This is simply because we espouse text-link-ads and paid links.

One of them even runs a paid subdirectory like iwebtool on his blog. His site lost PR for the same reason.

I'm planning to stop advertisng TLA and paid advertising by next week.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Dave Starr — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:47:12 -0000

This will be a rather interesting puzzle over the next few days. Of particular interest are Darren's comments a few hours back. Problogger.net is arguably at the top of nearly every list ... and they don't sell links or use TLA, TNX, BlogRush or whatever the current "don't do" of the day is. He drops to 4. John Chow, a very close second to ProBlogger by many measurements ... and who, by his own self description is evil ... he'll sell anything that isn't nailed down ... also drops to a "4". The logic, if there is any, escapes me.

In reality, if you aren't making a career out of TLA is, who cares. I have a PR 2 blog that I am reviving from the near dead. What difference does PR mean to me?

The fact that I have one of my desired search terms on the front page of the SERPs definitely means something, though. SERPS results certainly aren't driven by PR as some seem to think, I see plenty sites with higher PR who rank below me for my term.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Micah — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:30:29 -0000

So far, it doesn't look like the PR drop has dropped traffic much, if at all. (for the blogs I can check their traffic anyway). Just don't be linking to any shady sites or linkfarms...or be getting any links from them either. Other than that, just keep on pumping out good posts, and you should be fine.

Re: What On Earth Is Going On With The Latest Google PageRank Update?

Richard — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:55:45 -0000

Who cares about PR, even though the long green button does do wonders for everyone's ego. As long as your still in your keyword placement, I wouldn't really care.