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Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Sam Bronson — Mon, 02 May 2011 12:23:01 -0000

Actually, there is a difference: many advertising services pay a certain rate per "impression"; if the ad is never loaded, they don't pay! So, my policy is to define my own blocking rules when the ads on a particular site start to really get under my skin, rather than subscribing to any of the pre-made lists.

(Of course, I use FlashBlock: Flash ads are often incredibly annoying; even when they aren't, can't be right-clicked on properly; and last, but by no means least, they are a common entry vector for malware.)

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Smooth_Thug87 — Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:02:33 -0000

The best thing u can do is just stop making that site, discard it , forget it,, u wasting too much time on it,, u working so much on ur site u get ill of it lol Seek for a job, go steal, try drugdealing,, anything,, but forget the ads u wont succeed with it! If you would share sumthing veeerry interesting lets say an hotfile account or similiar,,just THEN u could say "U can support me by clicking my ads" and believe me u would get much support.
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U don even need to share anything like that, its enough to say,, "hey welcome 2my page, to support me u can click the ads"..
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But not the way u doin it,, D Hampton is right, ure arrogant!! uneed balls to write sumtin like that.just makin it worse

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

P-Powa! — Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:47:36 -0000

U schould see a doctor mate! "-Who are we to block them" hahha i cant believe u got the balls to write all those nonsense,, "Who r u to command us?" or better said, WHO ARE YOU TO ASK US TO PAY U?? for real man, who are you,? i dont care if u work on your site for days months or years,, ITS YOUR PROBLEM"" dont forget that fact ! ..i didnt tell u to do anything, HAH I TELL U WHAT,, USE A "Surveys-Style-Technique" on ur index homepage :p but instead of an SURVEY put an AD hhahahahhahahaha fella u sniff too much,,, or god knows wht ure doing,, SEEK HELP MAAYN !!

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

PETO D. — Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:34:44 -0000

RE: to "people get a small amount of money each time an add is loaded on a site, but a much larger amount when the ad is clicked."
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Are you ok? sure no schizo illness? lol
WHY schould WE care if you get paid enough from ur ads or not??
That aint my problem, i aint getting no pennys from you , ,,it aint my fault u try to live with ur bloody ADS haha GET A JOB INSTEAD !!! u aint gon get rich from ads, get real FOOOOL,, u schould be ashamed for writing this article. BUT I GOTTA ADMIT, THIS IS THE BEST ARTICLE I EVER READ HAHAHHA U MADE MY DAY HHAHA -----GOOD LUCK WITH UR ADS CAREER HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAH

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

AJ00200 — Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:20:28 -0000

I must point out that I don't see a donate button anywhere on this website. Before you go around complaining that people are blocking your ads, put up a donate button which won't be blocked.
I can understand how people who use ads to pay for their hosting feel about this, but most people really hate ads because:
1) They add to page load time
2) They are distracting
3) As you mentioned, some sites go way overboard on them
4) They are not looking to buy anything, so why even load the ads?
5) For people who don't have unlimited bandwidth, it adds to their Internet bill in the same way that you have to pay to host your website

If I was a frequent visitor to your website, I would white-list your domain so ads would show up, but since I don't, I am not going to load the address of your website into my browsers ram even day just so you can make a few cents.

And lastly, by your logic, people who browser the Internet with browsers like Lynx (which is text-only), or have JavaScript disabled, or even people who don't have flash installed are stealing money from you (or what if I wrote my own browser for the very purpose of blocking ads). Is it not our right to choose which browser we would like to use? You can block access to your website from certain browsers if you want, but you will also have to put up with the decreased overall views of your site which will, in the end, diminish your readership due to the lack of people linking to it.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

AJ00200 — Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:53:12 -0000

I am just answering your question. I use an ad blocker as well, so don't flame me.
The difference is that people get a small amount of money each time an add is loaded on a site, but a much larger amount when the ad is clicked.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Ciclos Formativos — Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:47:36 -0000

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Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Formacion Profesional — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 17:40:12 -0000

LOL: nice article, "blog baiting" I guess you call this. I really get surprised by the title and could not leave reading until the end...you are right regarding the money issue when writing blogs, but I think the kind of software you say to stop ads it's something from the past.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Part Time Jobs — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:10:00 -0000

Yes, I too want to say thanks for this.
Pritam Nagrale

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Guest — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 00:54:10 -0000

And again, we're not "stealing" or "taking" your content. Nobody hacked into your servers and downloaded your content without your permission. You're giving it away openly. Your business model based on advertising simply fails on the internet. If you don't want people "taking" your content, you can make it a subscription service.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Guest — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 00:43:07 -0000

"I don't think you can expect people like Everton, myself and other site owners who spend hours every day providing content and a service to people without any reward. Some people work on the internet like this as a full time job, but they still have to pay their bills at the end of the day as well."

This is once again that sense of entitlement. Lots of people start businesses, but that is no guarantee that they will make money. Nobody is entitled to make money just because they work hard. Sometimes their business model just doesn't work. This site and many others choose a business model that doesn't work well on the internet. They may have to fail for that. Maybe we will have to switch to a micropayment model instead.

Will it be the end of content on the internet? No. As it becomes more scarce, it will be increasingly worth paying for (at least micropayments). The internet could probably use some trimming down. I know you don't want to hear that, since you're one of the people who could potentially get laid off, but that's how the market works. It also works by adapting business models to the ecosystems in which they reside.

Personally, I have lots of subscription / pay / premium accounts on various web sites. I'm not averse to paying for content at all. However, I DO hate ads. I hope ad blocking becomes so ubiquitous that ads become extinct on the internet and we shift to a micropayment model.

Some people are against that, because they want everything for free. They ARE the freeloaders.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Guest — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 00:25:09 -0000

So I guess all that stuff about having an intelligent conversation and not name calling is out the window?

After posting my comment, I went back and spent 45 minutes reading through all the other comments (and noticed that the issue that I brought up was already addressed several times). It's just interesting how your argument completely devolved from "let's have a civil, intelligent conversation about this" to "fuck you scumbags".

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Guest — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 22:59:24 -0000

"As for the sites you visit whose content you enjoy and who don’t ram monetization down your throat, why not click an ad link now and then? It’s a way for you to show your appreciation for the service the web site is providing. It helps the site make money. It took you about half a second."

I've seen numerous people say this. You forget that there is no free lunch and *somebody* is paying for those ads. When we mindlessly click ads for things that we're never going to buy, we're hurting the companies paying for those ads.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

John Media @ server hosting — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:53:36 -0000

Don't get angry with firefox users just because your pop ups are just blocked by the browser be happy your site is being visited by net users. Firefox just making a way to make users free of unwanted advertisements.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Michael Lankton — Wed, 19 May 2010 08:44:12 -0000

hahahaha, so much for the EFF NOT being the crooks they really are http://news.cnet.com/8301-3... What did I say about lawyers?

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Evil G — Sun, 09 May 2010 08:42:01 -0000

Block all the web browsers! They are all stealing your precious bandwidth!!

I don't need crap popping up all over websites. We wouldn't have ad blocking if web sites kept it reasonable instead of popping under a bunch of ads, sliding surveys and dialogs over the pages, embedding a dozen tracking web bugs, and making sites you can't escape from. You killed the goose yourself.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

henrybowman_az — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:30:06 -0000

If anybody needs to grow up and quit crying, I suggest it is you. I'm happy with the status quo, so I'm not doing anything that remotely resembles crying. You, on the other hand, published a rant on the topic. You are holding on to an economic model that just flat splat DOESN'T WORK, like those survivalists who think that every man ought to grow his own corn and butcher his own cattle. The economic world has moved on and made your model obsolete. Be a free-market mensch: either implement a better model, or live with the shortcomings of the one you have.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

No Ads!! — Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:52:05 -0000

When the internet bans bewbs from ad's, maybe just maybe I'll allow these offensive (to my kids) ads back into our home. Sorry, I'm just not going to sift through every website on the net to find which one contains offensive ads, and which ones don't, and allow those. Also, I'm not going to sift through every single web page on the net to figure out which ones get blocked by my filtering software and which ones don't. It could be a totally clean minded page with no cuss words to warrant it being blocked by the software, but lo and behold theres naked women on the ads.

You piece of shat webmasters better start watching what ads you allow on your sites this is the biggest reason I use adblock.

What is your response to that? Thats what I thought. Deal with it.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Robert B — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:25:29 -0000

I've just spent some time reading over 15 pages of comments about this post. I'm also a contributor to this site as well as windows7news.com and my own two sites, techinfo-4u.com and nextiphonenews.com

I know several people have already expressed their opinion on this post and I'm feeling a bit left out so I thought I'd leave my own;

Being the owner of multiple sites myself I understand exactly where Michael is coming with this argument. I would also like to make it clear that nobody using Firefox will be blocked from this site! He simply came up with a headline to get you all interested in the article.

You need to think about this argument from both sides, the site owner and the readers.

I don't think you can expect people like Everton, myself and other site owners who spend hours every day providing content and a service to people without any reward. Some people work on the internet like this as a full time job, but they still have to pay their bills at the end of the day as well. How else are they meant to make any money aside from charging you for content which im against.

The internet is a place where people are free to do pretty much what they like, if people choose to use adblockers that's there choice. I'm by no means at all endorsing this and I have and will never use one.

Why? Because knowing what site owners go through to provide content, I know it's morally wrong to just keep taking it without even giving them an opportunity to try and generate a bit of revenue in return. If everyone just kept taking without giving, we would never get anywhere in life. Sometimes I appreciate the work and time and effort somebody has put into something and I will click on an advert for them, it's my why of giving something back.

And on the other hand I can see where many of our readers are coming from, expressing their distaste towards adverts on the web. But it's just like the adverts in the newspaper, just because there there doesn't mean you have to read them. When I go onto websites, I pretty much block out adverts mentally, I just glance over them without a second thought, because that's what I'm used to doing. I don't feel the need to go and block them entirely.

So people please have a look at this from both sides, the web owner and the reader. This article was never to be intended to be about blocking firefox users,

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Michael Lankton — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:55:13 -0000

Yeah, it was a bad example. Let me rephrase. The pay per click model is for small blogs. It is not a sustainable means of income on today's web for the majority of sites that monetize via ads. Advertising is all about impressions. Impressions which ad blocking, self entitled scumbags like you are denying the advertiser, the ad broker, and the publisher. All while you swoop in and steal the content. Content which was intended to be paid for via advertising.

You will NEVER convince me that I am wrong in this argument. If you use an ad blocker, but on the other hand you wouldn't pirate music, movies or software, than it is YOU my friend who are the hypocrite. One is ok and the other isn't? Bullshit. If you're gonna be a thief, be a thief. Don't try to dress it up in some self righteous argument about digital rights and personal property.

Sorry about my irate response, but I've been reading this garbage for almost half a year now, and the pro ad blocking segment hasn't become more convincing with time. Everyone gets that you don't like advertising, now grow up and quit crying about it.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

henrybowman_az — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:02:38 -0000

I'm not going to click on the ad in any case, PERIOD, so what difference does it make?

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

henrybowman_az — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:59:39 -0000

Translation: don't steal from me by not reading my ads, steal from my advertisers by pretending I delivered a bona fide hit.

What an unprincipled hypocrite.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

Angry at adverts — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:06:57 -0000

What a jumped up little IE using bearded prick.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

dave — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:18:51 -0000

This page with NO filtering: 681.45 KB. With NoScript and ABP(non-agressive filter set): 252.89 KB. There were still enough ads to click.

Re: Is It Time To Start Blocking Firefox Users?

oc35 — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:14:18 -0000

?? I don't get any google ads